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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s&#8230; retro&#8230; vintage&#8230; antique? Stephan illuminates</title>
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		<title>By: Kitschen Pink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitschen Pink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh this is fun. I have always been taught that something is not antique until is has attained 100 years - hence at 50 we sent my parents &#039;half an antique&#039; birthday cards....  Retro can be repro whereas I would expect &#039;vintage&#039; to be the genuine article. Also I think what qualifies as &#039;vintage&#039; in the colloquial use depends on your age. I have a neice who finds all things 80&#039;s positively historical... but then she was born in 1993..... It&#039;s a relative thing. But if she asks to borrow any shoes from my wardrobe for her history class she&#039;s dust! t.x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh this is fun. I have always been taught that something is not antique until is has attained 100 years &#8211; hence at 50 we sent my parents &#8216;half an antique&#8217; birthday cards&#8230;.  Retro can be repro whereas I would expect &#8216;vintage&#8217; to be the genuine article. Also I think what qualifies as &#8216;vintage&#8217; in the colloquial use depends on your age. I have a neice who finds all things 80&#8217;s positively historical&#8230; but then she was born in 1993&#8230;.. It&#8217;s a relative thing. But if she asks to borrow any shoes from my wardrobe for her history class she&#8217;s dust! t.x</p>
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		<title>By: pam kueber</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam kueber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Betty -- all buying and selling takes place on our Forum. Add your listing and photos there... Go to Other Stuff / Kitchens: http://retrorenovation.com/forum

New readers - please no buying and selling on the main site... go straight to the Forum. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Betty &#8212; all buying and selling takes place on our Forum. Add your listing and photos there&#8230; Go to Other Stuff / Kitchens: <a href="http://retrorenovation.com/forum" rel="nofollow">http://retrorenovation.com/forum</a></p>
<p>New readers &#8211; please no buying and selling on the main site&#8230; go straight to the Forum. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Betty Eigen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betty Eigen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an early 1960&#039;s pink double wall Modern Maid oven that still works (plus the manuals that came with it) that I am no longer using. If you are interested I will e mail pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an early 1960&#8217;s pink double wall Modern Maid oven that still works (plus the manuals that came with it) that I am no longer using. If you are interested I will e mail pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Ronn.  That&#039;s why it drives me crazy on eBay when someone advertises something as retro, and it&#039;s actually an old item.  Retro is a new item made to look like old items.  And I agree that vintage is used way too much, how can the 1990&#039;s stuff be vintage!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ronn.  That&#8217;s why it drives me crazy on eBay when someone advertises something as retro, and it&#8217;s actually an old item.  Retro is a new item made to look like old items.  And I agree that vintage is used way too much, how can the 1990&#8217;s stuff be vintage!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sharkeysday</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharkeysday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very informative and a fun thing to research! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative and a fun thing to research! <img src='http://retrorenovation.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ronn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It&#039;s not that complicated.  &quot;Retro&quot; means new products 
designed to look like or copy old products.  They are items 
designed to cash in on nostalgia.  &quot;Vintage&quot; means 25 years old 
but not 100 years old.  &quot;Antique&quot; (in this country) means 100+ 
years old, except for autos, which must be 25+ years old.
(&quot;Antique&quot; in China means 500+ years old.)

That&#039;s it.

Ronn Ives of FUTURES Antiques&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not that complicated.  &#8220;Retro&#8221; means new products<br />
designed to look like or copy old products.  They are items<br />
designed to cash in on nostalgia.  &#8220;Vintage&#8221; means 25 years old<br />
but not 100 years old.  &#8220;Antique&#8221; (in this country) means 100+<br />
years old, except for autos, which must be 25+ years old.<br />
(&#8220;Antique&#8221; in China means 500+ years old.)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>Ronn Ives of FUTURES Antiques&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: 50sPam</title>
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		<dc:creator>50sPam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the question to begin with, Sumac Sue! This was really a fun one.  I learned a lot, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the question to begin with, Sumac Sue! This was really a fun one.  I learned a lot, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Sumac Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sumac Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Pam and Stephan, for this informative and entertaining post. 

We really feel enlightened now on retro, vintage, and other terms. We hadn&#039;t thought of words like retro-rockets and retrospectif, but Stephan&#039;s findings makes us say, bien sur! Or, duh! Why didn&#039;t we think of that? 

The photos really bring it home, in a complex way. There are Wernher von Braun and Brigette Bardot, part of what we now view as a retro era. Yet, at that time, they were on the forefront of change in their fields. But, those forward-moving fields were defining themselves with words containing retro! Retro is complicated. 

I understand Stephan&#039;s feelings about the misuse of the word vintage. It bugs me that just about anything gets called vintage if the paint is chipped. I admit I find myself tossing the word around when I&#039;m not sure of a better description. I think this post will help me a lot in describing things from now on. Thanks to both of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Pam and Stephan, for this informative and entertaining post. </p>
<p>We really feel enlightened now on retro, vintage, and other terms. We hadn&#8217;t thought of words like retro-rockets and retrospectif, but Stephan&#8217;s findings makes us say, bien sur! Or, duh! Why didn&#8217;t we think of that? </p>
<p>The photos really bring it home, in a complex way. There are Wernher von Braun and Brigette Bardot, part of what we now view as a retro era. Yet, at that time, they were on the forefront of change in their fields. But, those forward-moving fields were defining themselves with words containing retro! Retro is complicated. </p>
<p>I understand Stephan&#8217;s feelings about the misuse of the word vintage. It bugs me that just about anything gets called vintage if the paint is chipped. I admit I find myself tossing the word around when I&#8217;m not sure of a better description. I think this post will help me a lot in describing things from now on. Thanks to both of you.</p>
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