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	<title>Comments on: Sumac Sue and her Gardenside way of life</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ronn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Femme 1,

You better believe it.  Lemonade, even Kool Aid (for which I lost my taste about 50 years ago).  

I'll add:

- Hire kids to mow your lawn.

- Have neighborhood events just for them.  (For example, we have an Easter Egg Hunt, a Xmas in the Park with Santa, Fourth of July cookout, National Night Out with the kids decorating their bikes for a parade and awards, etc.)  Of course the adults are there, and end up mingling anyhow...

Ronn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Femme 1,</p>
<p>You better believe it.  Lemonade, even Kool Aid (for which I lost my taste about 50 years ago).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll add:</p>
<p>- Hire kids to mow your lawn.</p>
<p>- Have neighborhood events just for them.  (For example, we have an Easter Egg Hunt, a Xmas in the Park with Santa, Fourth of July cookout, National Night Out with the kids decorating their bikes for a parade and awards, etc.)  Of course the adults are there, and end up mingling anyhow&#8230;</p>
<p>Ronn.</p>
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		<title>By: madison sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>madison sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 02:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much, Sumac Sue! Your neighborhood sounds a lot like the one I'm moving to (once my current house sells). It's full of small, modest '40s and '50s houses that have been loved since they were built--oftentimes, by the original owners. Because the trees are so huge (they're mostly huge old burr oaks and maples) and the houses are not, the neighborhood has an "enchanted" feeling that I really like.

The one I have an offer on is from 1940 (Pam, how do you feel about "wartime" houses?!). It's a style that I now know to be called Minimal Traditional. What a terrible name! Anyway, this link has a good description of this period of "plain Jane" architecture and a photo of a house that is more interesting looking than the one I am getting, but that's OK.

http://www.antiquehome.org/Architectural-Style/minimal-traditional.htm

Of course, as in Sue's case, the sum is more than the parts. I will be steps from a beautiful park with stone shelters, fire pits, and extensive trails through the woods; a short walk to all the shops I could possibly want, plus a brand-new library; and surrounded by people who are satisfied with things "as they are." And as Pam's latest post says, the "inner ring" of houses is holding or increasing in value here in Madison. (Why drive when you can walk, bike or take the bus?) Hopefully that same thinking will help me with the one I am selling, which was part of Madison's first "suburb" serving the UW campus just after the turn of the last century. Now it's considered "downtown"!

Thank you all so much for your thoughtful comments! This site always makes my day (on the days I find time to visit it:).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much, Sumac Sue! Your neighborhood sounds a lot like the one I&#8217;m moving to (once my current house sells). It&#8217;s full of small, modest &#8217;40s and &#8217;50s houses that have been loved since they were built&#8211;oftentimes, by the original owners. Because the trees are so huge (they&#8217;re mostly huge old burr oaks and maples) and the houses are not, the neighborhood has an &#8220;enchanted&#8221; feeling that I really like.</p>
<p>The one I have an offer on is from 1940 (Pam, how do you feel about &#8220;wartime&#8221; houses?!). It&#8217;s a style that I now know to be called Minimal Traditional. What a terrible name! Anyway, this link has a good description of this period of &#8220;plain Jane&#8221; architecture and a photo of a house that is more interesting looking than the one I am getting, but that&#8217;s OK.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.antiquehome.org/Architectural-Style/minimal-traditional.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.antiquehome.org/Architectural-Style/minimal-traditional.htm</a></p>
<p>Of course, as in Sue&#8217;s case, the sum is more than the parts. I will be steps from a beautiful park with stone shelters, fire pits, and extensive trails through the woods; a short walk to all the shops I could possibly want, plus a brand-new library; and surrounded by people who are satisfied with things &#8220;as they are.&#8221; And as Pam&#8217;s latest post says, the &#8220;inner ring&#8221; of houses is holding or increasing in value here in Madison. (Why drive when you can walk, bike or take the bus?) Hopefully that same thinking will help me with the one I am selling, which was part of Madison&#8217;s first &#8220;suburb&#8221; serving the UW campus just after the turn of the last century. Now it&#8217;s considered &#8220;downtown&#8221;!</p>
<p>Thank you all so much for your thoughtful comments! This site always makes my day (on the days I find time to visit it:).</p>
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		<title>By: Retro Renovation &#187; Our homes are holding their value better!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retro Renovation &#187; Our homes are holding their value better!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 08:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] likely in the first ring of suburbs - closer to town - which makes the commuting distance so easy. Sumac Sue wrote about this fact &#8212; drive time &#8212; being the reason she ended up in her Lexington charmer. And now - our [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] likely in the first ring of suburbs - closer to town - which makes the commuting distance so easy. Sumac Sue wrote about this fact &#8212; drive time &#8212; being the reason she ended up in her Lexington charmer. And now - our [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 50sPam</title>
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		<dc:creator>50sPam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 22:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these comments make me think about some "happiness" research that I read. Seems, people "think" they will be happier in a big house secluded in the country away from everyone else. Turns out, we are much happier when we are in a gregarious environment. When we have neighbors. 

How about:
- Random acts of kindness, like shoveling or snow-blowing your neighbors' sidewalk and driveway every once in a while. Guess what, they reciprocate. What a nice surprise.
- Taking in their newspaper when they are away.
- Borrowing some sugar every once in a while!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these comments make me think about some &#8220;happiness&#8221; research that I read. Seems, people &#8220;think&#8221; they will be happier in a big house secluded in the country away from everyone else. Turns out, we are much happier when we are in a gregarious environment. When we have neighbors. </p>
<p>How about:<br />
- Random acts of kindness, like shoveling or snow-blowing your neighbors&#8217; sidewalk and driveway every once in a while. Guess what, they reciprocate. What a nice surprise.<br />
- Taking in their newspaper when they are away.<br />
- Borrowing some sugar every once in a while!</p>
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		<title>By: Sumac Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sumac Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. Ronn's list is really important. He is right -- as the original owners pass away, and new people move in, that atmosphere in my neighborhood will change unless we work to keep it going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Ronn&#8217;s list is really important. He is right &#8212; as the original owners pass away, and new people move in, that atmosphere in my neighborhood will change unless we work to keep it going.</p>
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		<title>By: Femme1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Femme1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 20:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronn,

I love your list. I have one thing to add: 

Whenever you see a kid selling lemonade in front of their house, stop and buy a glass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronn,</p>
<p>I love your list. I have one thing to add: </p>
<p>Whenever you see a kid selling lemonade in front of their house, stop and buy a glass.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronn</title>
		<link>http://retrorenovation.com/2008/04/28/sumac-sue-and-her-gardenside-way-of-life/#comment-6864</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 14:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I too live in a 1958-62 neighborhood, with a majority of ranches but a few splits (which is what we have).  I suppose the area is slightly higher end than what was considered "middle" class at the time.  

Our neighborhood is as everyone else here seems to describe, so I have nothing to add on that subject.  However, I AM concerned about how this "feeling" is maintained.  Older folks die.  Younger folks take over.  Behaving in a friendly, community fashion is not genetic.  How do we make sure that the children and new buyers are brought into the "fold" - share the sense of pride?

Some people will never join up.  That's just a fact.  As a member of the Civic League and other sub-committees (as is my wife), we see and wrestle with this issue.  One thing's for sure (despite the fact I was a great renter in my time):  Rental properties tend to also be problem properties.  Why?  Renters generally have less at stake.  (There's NO reason for anyone to get their hair in a tangle about this statement.  It's a broad statement, but you know darned well it has truth to it.)  You aren't going to change those people.  That's that.   Discourage your neighborhood from having rental properties.  Write up a charter. 

Moving on... 

I think a few, simple, healthy gestures make for a cumulative, positive effect:

- Go for strolls.  Don't go for "power walks".

- Walk your dog, and carry a bag.

- Say "Hello".  Wave.  Nod.  Invite people to neighborhood events.

- CREATE neighborhood events!

- Drive slowly and carefully through your neighborhood.  

- Take your sunglasses off when you speak to someone.

- Have your car window down when possible.

- Offer to help.  Watch over the older folks.  Involve the kids.

- Wave to the kids.  Look them in the eyes.  Know their names like everyone else.

- Start a Civic League, establish a Neighborhood Watch, invite the kids as well.

- Start a "Welcome Wagon" program with your Civic League.

- Create a newsletter and a website.

- Have signs at the entrances to your neighborhood announcing when and where your Meetings will happen.  Give folks advance notice!

- If your garden is over-producing, deliver food gifts to those nearby.  

You get the idea.  You probably have no larger an investment, nor a more important location in your life than your home and neighborhood.  They are NOT self-maintaining machines.  Think of them as you (hopefully) do your car. They REQUIRE your attention and involvement.  

I hope others will add to my list of suggestions.

Ronn Ives at FUTURES Antiques</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I too live in a 1958-62 neighborhood, with a majority of ranches but a few splits (which is what we have).  I suppose the area is slightly higher end than what was considered &#8220;middle&#8221; class at the time.  </p>
<p>Our neighborhood is as everyone else here seems to describe, so I have nothing to add on that subject.  However, I AM concerned about how this &#8220;feeling&#8221; is maintained.  Older folks die.  Younger folks take over.  Behaving in a friendly, community fashion is not genetic.  How do we make sure that the children and new buyers are brought into the &#8220;fold&#8221; - share the sense of pride?</p>
<p>Some people will never join up.  That&#8217;s just a fact.  As a member of the Civic League and other sub-committees (as is my wife), we see and wrestle with this issue.  One thing&#8217;s for sure (despite the fact I was a great renter in my time):  Rental properties tend to also be problem properties.  Why?  Renters generally have less at stake.  (There&#8217;s NO reason for anyone to get their hair in a tangle about this statement.  It&#8217;s a broad statement, but you know darned well it has truth to it.)  You aren&#8217;t going to change those people.  That&#8217;s that.   Discourage your neighborhood from having rental properties.  Write up a charter. </p>
<p>Moving on&#8230; </p>
<p>I think a few, simple, healthy gestures make for a cumulative, positive effect:</p>
<p>- Go for strolls.  Don&#8217;t go for &#8220;power walks&#8221;.</p>
<p>- Walk your dog, and carry a bag.</p>
<p>- Say &#8220;Hello&#8221;.  Wave.  Nod.  Invite people to neighborhood events.</p>
<p>- CREATE neighborhood events!</p>
<p>- Drive slowly and carefully through your neighborhood.  </p>
<p>- Take your sunglasses off when you speak to someone.</p>
<p>- Have your car window down when possible.</p>
<p>- Offer to help.  Watch over the older folks.  Involve the kids.</p>
<p>- Wave to the kids.  Look them in the eyes.  Know their names like everyone else.</p>
<p>- Start a Civic League, establish a Neighborhood Watch, invite the kids as well.</p>
<p>- Start a &#8220;Welcome Wagon&#8221; program with your Civic League.</p>
<p>- Create a newsletter and a website.</p>
<p>- Have signs at the entrances to your neighborhood announcing when and where your Meetings will happen.  Give folks advance notice!</p>
<p>- If your garden is over-producing, deliver food gifts to those nearby.  </p>
<p>You get the idea.  You probably have no larger an investment, nor a more important location in your life than your home and neighborhood.  They are NOT self-maintaining machines.  Think of them as you (hopefully) do your car. They REQUIRE your attention and involvement.  </p>
<p>I hope others will add to my list of suggestions.</p>
<p>Ronn Ives at FUTURES Antiques</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is funny because I found your site while looking up info on mid-century houses because we are in the process of buying a 1963 ranch in Madison. I'm not particularly crazy about the exterior of the house (it's just a tidy-looking ranch from the outside), but the interior is all kinds of fabulous. (And the neighborhood is very nice.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is funny because I found your site while looking up info on mid-century houses because we are in the process of buying a 1963 ranch in Madison. I&#8217;m not particularly crazy about the exterior of the house (it&#8217;s just a tidy-looking ranch from the outside), but the interior is all kinds of fabulous. (And the neighborhood is very nice.)</p>
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		<title>By: Femme1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Femme1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn't sure where to post this query, but I thought this entry about neighborhoods would be as good a place as any. 

When I was growing up in the 60s in a brand new suburb of Baltimore (Wynnewood in Arbutus, for those of you in Bawlmer), almost everyone decorated their houses with a pair of ceramic cats or squirrels that looked as if they were climbing up the wall. Generally they'd be hung offset (one a little higher than the other) close to the front door. They were highly glazed, and must have been available in a variety of poses and colors  because they definitely weren't all the same. I've checked on eBay and have seen a few of these (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&#38;item=180237417368&#38;_trksid=p3907.m32&#38;_trkparms=tab%3D), but never in a set.

I've always been curious if this was just a Baltimore thing, or if these were popular in other places, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t sure where to post this query, but I thought this entry about neighborhoods would be as good a place as any. </p>
<p>When I was growing up in the 60s in a brand new suburb of Baltimore (Wynnewood in Arbutus, for those of you in Bawlmer), almost everyone decorated their houses with a pair of ceramic cats or squirrels that looked as if they were climbing up the wall. Generally they&#8217;d be hung offset (one a little higher than the other) close to the front door. They were highly glazed, and must have been available in a variety of poses and colors  because they definitely weren&#8217;t all the same. I&#8217;ve checked on eBay and have seen a few of these (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=180237417368&amp;_trksid=p3907.m32&amp;_trkparms=tab%3D), but never in a set.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been curious if this was just a Baltimore thing, or if these were popular in other places, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Femme1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Femme1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved reading about both Sue's and Jen's houses and their neighborhoods. Thanks so much for posting all the photos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved reading about both Sue&#8217;s and Jen&#8217;s houses and their neighborhoods. Thanks so much for posting all the photos!</p>
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