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		<title>Tiles in tub surround only go halfway up &#8212; what to do if you want a shower?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 08:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pam kueber</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Can This Bathroom Be Saved?&#8221; MacGuyvered PVC fix ain&#8217;t cuttin&#8217; it Christi has a problem that I think is fairly common: In her original 1950s bathroom, the tile only goes 5/8 of the way up the wall around the bathtub surround. Back in the day, it seems, folks took lots of baths and few showers. [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3 style="text-align: center;">&#8220;Can This Bathroom Be Saved?&#8221;<br />
MacGuyvered PVC fix ain&#8217;t cuttin&#8217; it</h3>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/bathroom-remodel-3.jpg"><img class="aligncenter  wp-image-71395" title="bathroom-remodel" src="http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/bathroom-remodel-3.jpg" alt="bathroom with tile only half way up the wall" width="400" height="300" /></a>Christi has a problem that I think is fairly common: In her original 1950s bathroom, the tile only goes 5/8 of the way up the wall around the bathtub surround. Back in the day, it seems, folks took lots of baths and few showers. In addition, the tiles look like mud-set tiles &#8212; the big thick ones. <em>And</em>, there&#8217;s a window &#8212; if you stand up, well, neighbors get quite the show. Readers, Christi is looking for help, ideas. What should she do? Can this bathroom be saved? Read on&#8230;</p>
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<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-71398" title="pink bathroom tile" src="http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/bathroom-remodel-1.jpg" alt="pink bathroom tile" width="500" height="375" /></p>
<p>Christi writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Pam</p>
<p>&#8220;Sadly, I am considering a whole rip-out of my pink bathroom tile. It’s in beautiful condition; even the 4×4 pink floor tile has held up over these 60+ years.</p>
<p><a href="http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/bathroom-remodel-4.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-71397" title="bathroom-remodel" src="http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/bathroom-remodel-4-224x300.jpg" alt="" width="224" height="300" /></a>The problem is the tub surround. It’s tiled only up to about 4&#8242; high. Another problem is the block glass window, placed conveniently where I have to stand in order to take a shower. It’s all plastered in, and while we’ve MacGuyvered a sort-of circular quasi-shower curtain rod out of HIS favorite, PVC, I just want something permanent and comfortable.</p>
<p>Is this the only home with the pink bathroom intact with this problem left? Somebody suggested I simply add tile above the elbow-shaped top tiles, but frankly it looks just as dorky as the PVC.</p>
<p>Any tried and true methods for preservation balanced with a dash of reality for those of us who need that 5-minute shower?</p>
<p>I have attached pics of the bathroom. The block glass tile window sill is about waist-high &#8212; and right next to my neighbor&#8217;s garden!  Thanks for your consideration in helping find a solution to my problem.</p>
<p>Have a great day!</p>
<p>Christi</p></blockquote>
<p>Christy, thank you for sharing. The PVC shower curtain &#8212; it&#8217;s just <em>wonderful</em>, absolutely made my day! <img src='http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Give the man a big hug for me.</p>
<p>I think this has come up before in emails I&#8217;ve received, but I&#8217;ve never put the question on the blog, as I can recall.</p>
<p>If it were my house, I think that the first potential solution I would explore would be to consult with a tiling professional to see if the top row of maroon bullnose around the tub could be carefully removed&#8230; making way to seamlessly continue the pink tile upward. If the removed maroon bullnose tile (what you call elbow-shaped) could be kept intact during removal, you could use it to finish the front edge of the new pink; that is, make an L-connection with the bullnose running horizontally through the rest of the room. I hope you can follow this&#8230; Perhaps you could get a match for your existing pink tile from B&amp;W&#8230; or you could try World of Tile. The whole project would likely be ridiculously expensive as it would be &#8220;fussy&#8221;.  On the other hand, gutting and replacing the entire bathroom also will be expensive &#8212; and as you say, you sure have a beautiful pink bathroom. There just ain&#8217;t nothin&#8217; like mud-set tile.</p>
<p><strong>Important update May 10</strong> &#8212; A lot of readers suggested using enamel paint on the walls in the tub/shower surround above the tile, saying this would be waterproof. Another reader in particular said, essentially: &#8220;BEWARE painting those walls &#8212; water and water vapor can still get in them and behind them and lead to rot and mold and otherwise, destruction.&#8221; This last comment rang true to me &#8212; as water is DESTRUCTIVE to a house. To further explore the issue, I asked the folks at Rust-Oleum, who specialize in surface solutions, whether they had a paint or other type product to use on tub/shower walls like this. Here is what they said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We really don&#8217;t have a product that they would be able to use &#8211; and quite frankly I don&#8217;t know of one.  It&#8217;s going to be very difficult to give drywall the type of water resistance that would be needed for this kind of exposure.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Bottom line: Beware this idea, readers. My advice: <strong>Consult with a properly licensed professional regarding the wisdom, or not, in this  idea.</strong></p>
<p>Regarding the window&#8230; I am not sure. I bet readers will have suggestions.</p>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong>Readers &#8212; have any of you confronted the same tile problem as Christi? </strong><strong>If so, what did you do?</strong><br />
<strong>And, what&#8217;s best to shield a window view in a tub-shower? </strong></h3>
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		<title>Three-handle tub shower faucet sets &#8212; three affordable designs</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pam kueber</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lela writes: Pam, can you help me find an affordable yet quality tub and shower faucet set in the 1950?s style? I need the hot, cold, and the middle knob for turning on the shower. I looked on Restoration Hardware and EACH ONE is $300-400! We have to get the work done soon, so I’m [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-70064" title="tub-and-shower-faucets" src="http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/tub-and-shower-faucets-2.jpg" alt="tub and shower faucets with three handles" width="500" height="433" />Lela writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Pam, can you help me find an affordable yet quality tub and shower faucet set in the 1950?s style? I need the hot, cold, and the middle knob for turning on the shower. I looked on Restoration Hardware and EACH ONE is $300-400! We have to get the work done soon, so I’m hoping to find something quick. When I did a Google search it lead me to you…. Thanks for any ideas you have.</p></blockquote>
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<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-70065" title="tub-and-shower-faucets-3" src="http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/tub-and-shower-faucets-3.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="365" />I respond:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t have any experience relative to their quality, but why don&#8217;t you look here &#8211;&gt; <strong><a title="tub shower faucets" href="http://lockeplumbing.com/catalog.asp?c=Bathroom%20Faucets&amp;s=Tub%20And%20Shower%20Faucets" target="_blank">Locke Plumbing tub-and-shower faucets</a></strong>. They seem to have several three-handle design available, at good prices. Update: Commenter pointed out that these may not be to code any longer &#8212; something to do with new anti-scalding designs; please consult with a licensed professional so that you can make an informed decision about this issue.</p></blockquote>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-70066" title="tub-and-shower-faucets-1" src="http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/tub-and-shower-faucets-1.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="448" />Locke Plumbing was <strong><a title="vintage style plumbing fixtures" href="http://retrorenovation.com/2008/11/13/retro-style-tub-and-shower-faucet-by-delta/">a tip from Russell</a></strong> a few years ago. Remember <strong><a title="house built by sea bees" href="http://retrorenovation.com/2008/10/27/russells-brand-new-old-time-capsule-home-built-by-seabees-in-north-attleboro-mass/">Russell&#8230; of the &#8220;Seabee House.&#8221;</a></strong>  Oh my, aren&#8217;t these three handle tub-and-shower faucets sets just beautiful to behold. Like sculptures. I like the look of the Sayco &#8212; the very first set &#8212; in particular. Actually, I love it. But I am like that about chrome and brass and plumbing in general. When I was a kid, roaming around the hardware store was my favorite. So of course, I spent a whole hour roaming around the Locke Plumbing site in general. Remember: Russell&#8217;s initial recommendation of Locke was as a place to find parts.</p>
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		<title>The 3 most common questions: On tile, on plumbing fixtures, on steel kitchen cabinets</title>
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		<dc:creator>pam kueber</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The three most common questions I get via email, and sometimes in random places on the blog are: Where can I find replacement bathroom tile? Where can I sell, or buy, vintage sinks, toilets, tubs &#8212; and how about pricing? Where can I sell, or buy, vintage steel kitchen cabinets &#8212; and how about pricing? [...]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/replacement-bathroom-tile-1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-67244" title="replacement-bathroom-tile-1" src="http://retrorenovatio.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/replacement-bathroom-tile-1.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="332" /></a>The three most common questions I get via email, and sometimes in random places on the blog are:</p>
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<li>Where can I find replacement bathroom tile?</li>
<li>Where can I sell, or buy, vintage sinks, toilets, tubs &#8212; and how about pricing?</li>
<li>Where can I sell, or buy, vintage steel kitchen cabinets &#8212; and how about pricing?</li>
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<div>These are all already answered within the blog, but here&#8217;s a round-up on where to find these answers&#8230; and answers to common questions, in general.<span id="more-67243"></span></div>
<h3><strong><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span><br />
1. Where can I find replacement bathroom tile?</strong></h3>
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<div>Answer: My best resource at this point is World of Tile in Springfield, New Jersey. I have multiple stories on <strong><a title="where to find replacement bathroom tile" href="http://retrorenovation.com/tag/world-of-tile/">World of Tile &#8212; read them all by clicking here</a></strong>.<br />
<span style="color: #ffffff;">. </span></div>
<div>It&#8217;s also possible you may find vintage tile at the Re-Store&#8230; and if you&#8217;re looking for new tile in retro colors, there are lots of options today. See my navigation &#8212; <strong><a title="where to find retro color tile" href="http://retrorenovation.com/category/bathroom-categories/tile/">Bathrooms / Tile</a></strong> category for all my stories.</div>
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<h3><strong>2. Where can I sell, or buy, vintage sinks, toilets, tubs &#8212; and how about pricing?</strong></h3>
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<div>Answer: Check out this 2009 story: <strong><a title="where to find vintage sinks tubs and toilets" href="http://retrorenovation.com/2009/09/25/wher-to-find-vintage-bathroom-fixtures/">Where to find vintage bathroom sinks, tubs and toilets</a></strong>. This story was written with buyers in mind &#8212; but use the advice in reverse if you are a seller.<br />
<span style="color: #ffffff;">. </span></div>
<div>On pricing: I give no advice and don&#8217;t plan to.  It&#8217;s what the market will bear. You have to do your own research based on your own market dynamics.</div>
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<h3><strong>3. Where can I sell, or buy, vintage steel kitchen cabinets &#8212; and how about pricing?</strong></h3>
<blockquote>
<div>This one also is answered in a comprehensive story I did in 2009: <strong><a title="buying or selling vintage metal kitchen cabinets" href="http://retrorenovation.com/2009/04/09/how-and-where-to-sell-your-vintage-metal-kitchen-cabinets/">How and where to sell your vintage metal kitchen cabinets.</a></strong> This one was written with sellers in mind, use it in reverse if you are a buyer.</div>
<div><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></div>
<div>On pricing: Reader 52PostnBeam did extensive analysis on sales through 2011 and arrived at some per-cabinet averages for<strong><a title="prices for vintage metal kitchen cabinets" href="http://retrorenovation.com/2011/02/07/the-average-price-of-premium-vintage-steel-kitchen-cabinets-in-2010-33-per-cabinet-according-to-52postnbeam-analysis/"> the selling prices of vintage steel kitchen cabinets</a></strong>.</div>
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<div style="text-align: center;">Are you looking for an answer?</div>
<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong>I try to keep most common questions in <a title="common Retro Renovation questions" href="http://retrorenovation.com/tag/faq/">the FAQ.<br />
Please check it out.</a></strong></h3>
<p style="text-align: center;">Also use the navigation at the top &#8212; there&#8217;s tons of research and experience captured there.</p>
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