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Open thread: Did you “Listen to your house” before making any changes?

pam kueber - Updated: August 12, 2017

Retro Renovation stopped publishing in 2021; these stories remain for historical information, as potential continued resources, and for archival purposes.

evaxebraHere’s a fun one for a Friday: As an owner of an old house… did you take the tried and true advice to “listen to what your house says it wants” before making updates or remodels?

  • If so: What did your house tell you — and how did that affect your plans?
  • Flip side: Did you not take the time to listen to your house… and make a rash decision you later regretted?

It’s pretty clear what the fabulous evaxebra’s old apartment was telling her: Don’t you dare mess with the pink bathroom!

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  1. Emma says

    April 3, 2015 at 9:47 am

    We moved into our 1949 mid modest house last January and started doing small changes right away. I don’t think the previous owners were much for listening- the bathroom and kitchen were remodeled but are so far out of touch with the era and the rest of the rooms in the house. We painted the outside and inside more cheerful, era appropriate, colors and have been hard work ever since. Whenever we go to make a decision about something, we tend to anthropomorphize our house. There’s some things our house just doesn’t like, even if we do. If we don’t have the house’s seal of approval, it’s a no go. 🙂

  2. Ginger says

    April 3, 2015 at 9:39 am

    My house had horrible nicknames in the area: “house with the green pool” (from algae), “hoarder house”, “the one with the bat problem”, and my personal favourite “murder den”. It was in bad shape, neglected for years and owned by a family with serious problems. Three boarded up windows, carpenter ants, ugly awnings, bad wood panelling, bad diy work from the 70s… We moved in and took off the awnings, the whole house filled with sunlight. It’s like we ripped the oppression off an abused space and found a happy little home underneath. It’s been five years but we’ve almost finished renovating our home (complete with a black and white bath inspired by here!). We get told all the time that it’s a. Neighbourhood favorite, it’s amazing how easy it was to leave the old nicknames behind.

    • Ginger says

      April 3, 2015 at 9:40 am

      Oh and! The pool! I h**** (edited) it, wanted to fill it in. But no, just no. The house wanted to keep its little pond.

      • Mary Elizabeth says

        April 3, 2015 at 10:21 am

        This sounds like my friends’ “animal house,” complete with carpenter ants (and termites), bats and squirrels in the attic, mice in the kitchen, and the swampy pool. It actually had salamanders living in it, which was kind of cool. As I recall, she and her kids caught them all and relocated them to a real pond in the woods.

        Good for you for finding and restoring the house. I think houses are like people–most can be rehabilitated with the right treatment.

    • Susie Q. says

      April 3, 2015 at 11:03 am

      You’re a brave soul to undertake so much! I’m glad you rescued your house.

  3. Jeff Pierce says

    April 3, 2015 at 9:27 am

    I have listened, and I have ignored. I have gotten a project finished, and I have lived in an unfinished house for too long.

    With hindsight, I would say it’s better to listen. At least then, you’re doing no harm. My very unique 1947 home has every colonial piece of trim I could nail onto it. New, clad six-over-six windows replacing the steel originals and a porch befitting Tara tacked on the back. What a mistake! But, things at 51 look a lot different than they did at 26.

    My beautiful 1939 Cape Cod in 100% original condition now belongs to someone else because u couldn’t make up my mind what to do with it. The entire time I lived there, it was drafty, dusty and dingy. But, for some reason, I really miss it, sometimes.

  4. Lisa says

    April 3, 2015 at 9:23 am

    Please give this same consideration to the landscaping, too. When I see folks move in to a house and start hacking away at the landscaping, it makes me sad. Try as hard as you can to make it through an entire growing season to see what you have first. A bush that looks scraggly in the fall may be the most beautiful bloomer in April.

    • Mary Elizabeth says

      April 3, 2015 at 10:15 am

      So true, Lisa! I waited for two years for something to come up, and all I got was a nice lawn and a bunch of daffodils out back, which the deer ate the first day they bloomed. Then I found out the house wanted a tiny garden in front and liked the woods and grass in the back for the deer to live on.

    • Kate says

      April 3, 2015 at 10:37 am

      Yes, unless your yard was like mine — so overgrown the trees and shrubs were overtaking the house! Our home inspector told us to trim back severely or remove many of the trees and shrubs ASAP after we bought the place to avoid damage to the house.

      http://retroranchrevamp.com/2010/07/18/our-retro-ranch/

    • Scott says

      April 3, 2015 at 9:37 pm

      So true Lisa! Some things can’t be saved but many others, no how massive they have become can be groomed back into shape. A few things in my yard are original equipment with others being transplants from my parents and grandparents. I may be weird but I think you can get as emotionally attached to a yard as you can a house itself.

  5. Rudy says

    April 3, 2015 at 9:21 am

    I like this concept. With my last three houses, right after moving in, all my friends were asking when the remodel would start. I told them I need to live in the house for about a year so it can tell me what it needs. They all seemed confused by the statement. Some things I H**** (edited) about the house sometimes turned into ” Oh that’s why they did it this way.” Anyway, patience in remodeling is a virtue.

  6. Mary Elizabeth says

    April 3, 2015 at 9:13 am

    Some lines might look odd. Sorry the italics and other features didn’t translate into this format. (P.S. Dorothy and Mike are the deceased original owners, which is clear in the context of the other poems.)

  7. Mary Elizabeth says

    April 3, 2015 at 9:04 am

    We’re listening to our house all right. Here is a poem from my forthcoming poetry book _Permanent Guests_:

    REDECORATING WITH DOROTHY AND MIKE

    They don’t speak to us directly
    or move about at night like poltergeists,
    hiding paint chips or wall tile samples
    (though we sometimes wonder how
    that floor covering brochure disappeared).

    But whenever we discuss
    ripping out a wall or a window,
    covering linoleum with wood,
    or choosing a new kitchen sink,
    we seem to have contrary inspirations.

    Waiting to be plowed out after a blizzard,
    we decide to keep the Mamie pink tub
    and pink and gray tile instead of updating
    the bath. Weeks later, a matching sink
    appears at a plumbing warehouse.

    Our tastes have changed since we moved
    into this house. We have adopted
    two cats and a nineteen fifties aesthetic—
    tole lamps, calico curtains, knotty pine,
    handmade quilts, laminate counters.

    We tell our friends (and ourselves)
    we’re being thrifty—we could spend
    our renovation money on college funds
    for grandchildren, buy a new camper,
    vacation in the Maritime Provinces.

    Instead of We want, we find ourselves
    saying, We think this house wants.
    Somehow the basement summer kitchen
    suggested we buy canning supplies
    and five pecks of fresh peaches.

    The front door needed to be painted
    an historic New England burgundy.
    The back yard called for a clothes line,
    the old-fashioned rotary kind, handmade
    of wood and rope by Amish carpenters.

    The house wanted a picture window
    overlooking the woods, a gas fireplace,
    to warm the sleeping cats. They startle,
    stare at the front door we never use,
    as if hearing a key in the lock.

    (c) 2015 Mary Elizabeth Lang

    • pam kueber says

      April 3, 2015 at 9:15 am

      Oh my word. You continue to AMAZE ME, Mary Elizabeth. Just AMAZE! This is awesome beyond belief! Do you have more poems about your new/old house in your upcoming book??? THANK YOU for sharing this with us, I am so honored!

    • Kate says

      April 3, 2015 at 9:31 am

      Bravo Mary E! 🙂

    • LuAnn says

      April 3, 2015 at 9:35 am

      Wow…just wow. Love your poetry, Mary Elizabeth! 🙂

      • Mary Elizabeth says

        April 3, 2015 at 10:12 am

        Thank you all. It’s the house talking. I just listen. 🙂

    • Jay says

      April 3, 2015 at 1:10 pm

      Lovely! Sounds like the poetic version of Pam’s Mid Century Modest Manifesto. Especially like the line about not using the front door – in true New England fashion!

    • Siri Stanley says

      April 4, 2015 at 11:23 pm

      o how i love what you wrote!

      my front door remains unused.

      and i never have to apologize!

    • Sally says

      April 5, 2015 at 1:49 am

      I’m not even a “Poetry person,” but I LOVE your poem!!!

    • Kathie says

      April 5, 2015 at 8:01 am

      Beautiful poem, spoken so true. You’re a fine listener.

  8. Jamie says

    April 3, 2015 at 8:56 am

    We just bought a 1963 ranch home. The kitchen is a disaster with u*** [edited] laminate cabinets – and there is a 1970s mural of Paris on the living room wall. Yet, I’m reluctant to dive in. We painted the outside and fixed the basics, and I’m waiting to see what is next. In our first home, our 1940s bungalow, we did crazy things. We made a back vineyard patio that we never used and fixed up the basement, which promptly flooded. We are slower now, but wiser I think.

    • pam kueber says

      April 3, 2015 at 9:13 am

      A mural of Paris on the wall! We love murals here! https://retrorenovation.com/search-results/?q=mural

  9. db says

    April 3, 2015 at 8:44 am

    With our first house – we did not listen; we started remodeling (kitchen gut) before we even moved in, and continued with another major project (adding bathroom and finishing the basement) before we’d even been there a year.
    While things worked out okay, and I don’t regret the projects, we are taking a different approach with our second house.
    We start our first big renovation later this month, nearly two years after moving.
    For us, taking the time to see how we live in this new house has guided decisions, allowed us more time to research and acquire materials, and I’m more confident in our plans.

  10. midmichigan says

    April 3, 2015 at 7:17 am

    After repeated lessons, I’ve learned to listen to my wife first. She’ll tell me what the house is saying.

    • Steve H says

      April 3, 2015 at 8:26 am

      Sounds like she’s the House Whisperer

    • CorgiMom says

      April 3, 2015 at 10:14 am

      I think my husband would say the same thing!

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