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Stain color for the ceiling beams in Daniel’s pickwick pine living room

Pam Kueber - Updated: November 2, 2020

Retro Renovation stopped publishing in 2021; these stories remain for historical information, as potential continued resources, and for archival purposes.

Another doing-things-The-Hard-Way Retro Renovator here: Daniel discovered, searched, found, drove to get, stained and installed this beautiful wall of pickwick pine in the living room of the 1956 house he has been working on. He has great tips to share — like, how he got that classic knotty pine color just right — but he also has a question for us: Should the faux beams he’s adding be darker in color than the pine, or the same color? 

From Daniel, edited a bit: 

Hi Pam,

Hi! I just want to first let you know I love your site! I’m on it almost daily using it for reference material. I own a 1956 brick ranch and I’m in the process of bringing it back to the former glory that is mid-century. I love all things retro and vintage.

I’m currently working on the living room. I’ve done one accent wall with pickwick paneling and made a bookshelf that is somewhat built in. (it isn’t recessed but it is attached to the wall). I’m adding faux beams to the ceiling and this brings me to my question. The pickwick was finished with 2 coats of amber stain by General finishes, 2 coats of clear shellac and 3-4 coats of amber shellac (what a process, but results were fantastic!).

I’m wondering what to do for the beams though; do I finish to match the paneling or do I go darker to contrast the paneling. I wouldn’t want it to be dark, dark brown but I’m thinking maybe a shade or two darker (just a hint of brown) would be nice. Then again, maybe the same color as the paneling would be acceptable. The beams will be pine boards similar to what you would find at Home Depot. I’m not sure if it’s exactly considered knotty pine, but it is pine.

The room is literally a construction zone right now, so there is no decor, flooring (aside from sub-floor) or much else to base opinions on. [In the photos you can see]  the wall with pickwick paneling and the frame work for the beams as well as the design I made illustrating the layout of the beams. Hopefully this will help and I sincerely appreciate any help and opinions from the readers!  Thanks!

Very cool! That knotty pine indeed looks amazing! Of course, I asked Dan for some more info about the house and how he got into The Retro. Oh, and you’ll see I also nudged him suggesting that he might want to consider wallpaper on the ceiling — like in Brian and Keri’s den, dreamy!. 

  • Knotty is Nice: All our stories about Knotty Pine. 

Dan wrote:

The house was built in 1956 and has (sort of) been in the family ever since. My Grandmother’s Godmother and her husband had the house built. Both my Grandmother and Grandfather acquired the house in 1997 and lived in it until they both passed. I’ll be purchasing the house in a couple of months but have done tons of work in it over the years. My Grandfather was a self taught carpenter (mostly finish carpentry) after he retired from the Fire Department in 1988. I took an interest in woodworking ever since I was old enough to work with him but unfortunately he gave it up by the time I was old enough to really delve into it. Pretty much everything I know I learned through trial and error and just doing. 

I’m not quite sure when all this mid-century/vintage/retro stuff sparked an interest for me but for as long as I can remember, I always loved the somewhat simplistic and (sometimes) chaotic (think clashing, bright colors on carpets, furniture, etc) look that is mid-century. Recently, I’ve really come to appreciate the craftsmanship that went into building these old homes: the natural woodwork, solid wood cabinetry, chrome trim around counter-tops, top notch building materials, the list goes on. It’s clear they took pride in their work, and while there’s certainly still builders around who do, I think a lot of that has fallen by the wayside for faster and cheaper building methods. 
As for this current project, I searched high and low for years as to what kind of paneling I’m putting up, and I finally stumbled upon your site and it cleared it up for me. I was so happy to figure out what it finally was. My parents have this paneling in the living room of their 1956 Cape Cod. Unfortunately, my Mom convinced my Dad to paint it years ago and that was before I had a real appreciation for this stuff. I now have a strict “no painting natural woodwork” policy. I do painting and wallpapering on the side and have turned down many jobs where people wanted to paint the natural woodwork in their homes. I just can’t bring myself to do it.
 
I drove from Buffalo, NY, to Middletown, PA, with a pickup truck to get all the paneling I needed. I was going to buy enough to do a small wall in the dining room too but unfortunately, a lot of the paneling at the yard was damaged when it got shipped to them so I was only able to get enough to do the living room wall and the back wall of the book case with a couple boards left over.
 
Staining and finishing was a huge undertaking, and I’ll likely never do a job again this large. I found a stain that nearly hits the nail on the head in matching the original woodwork in the house which is General Finishes Amber Dye. To cover that I did two coats of clear shellac and 3-4 coats of amber shellac. It was my first time working with shellac on such a large scale, and there is definitely a learning curve, but the results were phenomenal! 
 
I had to chuckle when you mentioned wallpapering the ceiling because that is exactly what I’m doing. I’ve already ordered the Anaglypta (style Turner Tile) and that goes up next, then painted, followed by the finished boards for the beams. I’ve been working steadily on this room since last October, and it’ll probably be two-three more months before it’s actually done. I’d like to do the dining room next, but I can’t think about that right now… too overwhelming! HAHA
 
When the project is all done, I can send pictures of everything from start to finish if you’d like to update the story. If you have any other questions, let me know. 
 
Thanks!!
-Dan​
Thank YOU, Dan, I love it!

Okay readers, time to o-pine (sorry, I had to!):

Should the ceiling beams be stained the same as the wall, or should they be darker?

 

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  1. Wendellyn says

    February 27, 2018 at 10:03 am

    Wow! Pretty much covers what Dan has done. What an inspiration, to us all. I wish I were his age again! The paneling reminds me of my parents home and the color is spot on. When they built their home in 1959 the paneling was raw. Even after they put the shellac the paneling still looked raw. My mother was in tears! The contractor told her that the paneling would deepen in color over time and eventually it became a wonderful hue of honey. Good luck to Dan and I can’t wait to see how the room unfolds!

  2. Carolyn says

    February 27, 2018 at 9:46 am

    Of the colors in the paneling, it appears you are leaning toward the darker colors of the knots?
    Our 1978 House of Harmony mobile home has walnut paneling with gen-you-eyen faux hand-hewn “beams” of a bitter chocolate/coffee-no cream hue against creamy ceiling which has a cafe au lait texture to it. The beams are of the same value as the seams of the paneling. It makes a nice sharp (as in “cool!”) contrast especially since the trimwork is all walnut.
    Thank you for sticking to your principles of not painting woodwork where it would be inappropriate to the era/style of the home. For me, painting (high-gloss white thru maybe butter-y cream) would be in a farmhouse because that’s what I’m used to seeing growing up, or if the wood was in too bad of condition. I don’t get the trend to paint every-blessed-thing the same color.

  3. Dan says

    February 27, 2018 at 9:28 am

    Although the beams are strictly decorative, they are meant to mimic true support beams that would not be made from knotty pine. I would go a bit darker and not as glossy to give a truer illusion of real beams.

  4. Hettie says

    February 27, 2018 at 8:16 am

    Just a bit darker, so you get some contrast…but you have 8′-0″ ceiling, so not too dark. A dark stain will make the ceiling feel even lower.
    BTY – I have a basement full of old knotty pine, free to anyone who would like it in the NYC area.

  5. Bette Jean says

    February 27, 2018 at 8:12 am

    Darker

  6. Stacia Schaefer says

    February 27, 2018 at 8:11 am

    I think it should match because 1) most original rooms with this or knotty pine had all the wood the same, and 2) even if you don’t want THAT much matching, this room only has one accent wall and the beams, and I guess the woodwork. There’s alot of walls and the rest of the ceiling to give the eyes a break.

  7. CD Ellis says

    February 27, 2018 at 8:10 am

    I vote for staining them the same color!

  8. ineffablespace says

    February 27, 2018 at 7:46 am

    I would make them the same color.

  9. Barbara says

    February 27, 2018 at 7:23 am

    LOVE…love…love stories like Daniels!!
    Say, did you say you took classes? Well, was one of those classes a, “perfectionist” class? From what I see, it’s perfect! I would hire you in a heartbeat to hang my wallpaper.
    In my opinion, keep the beams in the same color.
    Good luck Daniel!

  10. Paige says

    February 27, 2018 at 6:32 am

    I think Dan is spot on with his idea to go a little darker.
    Tally one in the darker column!

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