A short history of Hudee Rings from the president of Vance Industries. Including: Sex sells!

1960s brochure about metal sink rim from vance industriesAfter reader Jon tipped me off the retro-fabulous products available at Vance Industries here and here and here, I was contacted by the CEO and co-owner of the company — Bill Rapp – who offered to provide some history about Hudee Rings and how they came about in the kitchen countertop industry . One of my favorite kinds of story:  Finding out — first-hand from someone who was there, right in the midst of the industry — how a unique product introduced in post-WWII America came about. Oh, and who doesn’t love a tale that throws in some sex for good measure? (We don’t get to that much here on this blog. Memorable: Naked nudie jigsaw.) Bill and I had an hour-long phone conversation – read on for this history of “sink rims” or “sink frames”, as Bill officially calls them. You’ll learn why they are called Hudee Rings!

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sales materials for vance industries' metal sink rimHere are quotes, only slightly edited, taken from my conversation with Bill Rapp, president and co-owner of Vance Industries… For this first story, I did not take out very much – I wanted to capture it all:

What you call a “hudee ring” was patented in 1948 by Walter A. Selck, of the Walter Selck Co. The name ‘hudee’, as I understand it, came from the combination of the names of the two engineers who worked on the product. One of them was named Hudek, I think, I am not sure of the other. “Hudee” was the working name of the product while they worked on it.

walter selck company inventor of the hudee ringOnce the product was introduced, Walter Selck realized immediately that what he had. Understand, that in postwar America, it was the coming of the Formica top. And the big problem for using sinks and mounting them in the new tops was that underneath that laminate was plywood, then particle board.  Plastic (laminate countertops) was impervious to water, but plywood was not. It would separate when exposed to water.

1958 ad for hudee rings
I neeeeeeeeed a “Hudee Handbook”!

Going one step further back in time – before plastic countertops were introduced — countertops were made of linoleum-type materials, and used a steel edge band. And we had mostly drainboard sinks. But with the postwar advent of the dishwasher, and as a cost issue, male designers took out the drainboards.  [Bill explains he uses the word “male”, because those drainboards are still great, even if you have a dishwasher. As in: Only a man would have thought to do away with drainboard sinks/ I agree.]

[Bill further explains that at the same time, women wanted their sinks to be flush with the countertop, so that they could brush scraps right into the sink. Hence: the need for the metal sink rim.]

With great success of the sink-rim product Walter Selck could hardly keep up. So he opened up the competition and licensed his patent to other companies.

vance industries brochure for metal sink rimsVance Industries was founded in 1949 in Evanston, Illinois. and started manufacturing sink rims. Royalties were paid to Selck on everything that we produced and sold.

Between 1950 and the mid-to-late 60s, use of the sink frame was nearly universal, there no other way to do it. I started with Vance in 1972, there were about eight companies that manufactured sink frames then. At that point, Selck was not the biggest. The largest was probably the R.D. Werner Company. Go to a big box retailer and you can still see their ladders today.  As the sink frame business was shrinking  Vance bought their sink frame business. Kincaid Manufacturing was another company that made sink frames. They were subsequently bought by a plumbing group that became part of Kohler.  At that point, we picked up the sink frame business from them.

lots of sizes of metal sink framesEven then, we knew there would be a sunset to the sink rim product, as self-rimming sinks started getting more popular in the 60s. To diversify, in 1970 we started producing our “Surface Saver”, which required a sink frame to install in the countertop. Also in the 60s, we began manufacturing stainless steel sinks. By the 1970s, using sinks that required metal sink rims became the least expensive way to install a sink. It became more limited for use in manufactured housing and mobile homes, concerned about saving a couple of nickels.

Today, we are the “Galactic Leader” in metal sink frames, although we don’t rely on this business for the majority of our sales anymore. While we show a limited number of sizes on our website, we can make a sink frame any size, although we can’t change the radius of the bend.  Our sink frame manufacturing is based in Niles, Ill. It’s 1940s technology – back when we made lots of these sparks flying from welding and grinding, it was great.

vintage surface saver cutting board from vance industriesOur Surface Saver® built-in cutting boards are still an excellent solution to repairing laminate countertops damaged by hot pots and pans or from knife mars.  Rather than replacing the entire top, the damaged area can be cut out and a Surface Saver® installed. The Surface Saver® is an excellent sanitary food prep surface as well as a cutting board and trivet. The board is a tempered glass product, not porous.  These days we’re selling a few more: It’s not a dominant business for us, but certainly worth staying in it.  We were the first company to do a tempered glass food prep surface, and this ran very well for us for many years. We also had been selling metal rims for Corning’s Countersaver product. When Corning shut down their flat glass manufacturing in the 1980s, and started buying the glass from us it was a transformational moment for us.

vicki vance using sex to sell metal sink rimsIn the late 60s and early 70s and advertising being king, we launched a campaign, “You Should Meet Vicki Vance.”

vicki vance a character to help sell sink rims in the 1960s

Yes, sex to sell hudees.

vicki vance created to help sell hudee rings in the 1960sThe people who bought and used our products where plumbers and plumbing wholesalers.  We used this promotion to set up a personal relationship between Vicki and the plumber. If they bought enough they would get photo of Vicki that was personalized.

vicki vance as a cheerleader to sell metal sink frimsWe bought 1,000 8×10 wood picture frames, the sales manager’s wife would sign the photos. It became THE promotion, really pushed Vance way up on the list of preferred supplier.

Today Vance focuses on sink mounting hardware both for top mounted sinks as well as undermounted models. And, we make sink frames, which are produced exclusively in the U.S. of U.S. stainless steel.

Note, that sink frame installation is still the best way to install a sink. There are a couple of reasons why: When you put the sink frame in, you can tighten it down very tight with no damage to the sink or countertops. Also, if a countertop is not exactly level, the stainless steel rim is flexible enough to still tighten it down watertight. Installation with a sink frame is pretty easy, compared to undermounting. And the frame is stainless, it outlasts.

We discuss removing an existing hudee ring:

Don’t use a screwdriver to pull it out. Get underneath and loosen the lug bolts. Then get in with a knife… it is possible to do it.

Where to get new installation clips if you are installing a vintage hudee-ringed sink and the clips are gone?

There were certain standards, and if somebody needs a pack – we will have a clip to install it.

And, Vance *only* has 18 sizes of sink rims aka Hudee rings on its website. What if readers want to order a one in a different size?

Yes, we can do it. We have one employee who spends full time making them… He’s 65…. Nobody retires here anymore. We’re all retro.

Bill Rapp
President and CEO
Vance Industries

To steal a phrase from Kate McKinnon, I am so happy to live in a universe that includes hudee rings, Vicki Vance, sales managers’ wives who signed provocative promotional literature circa 1970 — and people like Bill Rapp who are happy to help us capture all this history. Thank you, Bill!

Peoples: Did you read the above? —> Vance Industries will make you a hudee ring in any size you need. Here’s their website: Vance Industries.

You can also get the rings directly on Amazon here. (affiliate link)

Here at Retro Renovation, we are the Galactic Leaders in chronicling hudee rings. Here are some related posts:


  1. Roger Wellington says:

    Re Williams Sonoma sponges: You can get essentially the same cellulose, “pop-up” sponge product at Trader Joe’s for much much less- 12 for $9.95.

  2. Dave says:

    Just reinstalled an original Hudee ring on a Mint Green 1960 sink. What a bear! Trouble caused by 3 cm marble being thicker than the ply counter we replaced with marble. The original clips were wrong shape, I had to re-bend them (breaking 2) and then 2 yards of plumbers putty and two guys for a couple hours, we barely got er back in. I did not buy a Vance product. Just a field report on original Hudee ring installation. No info on installation techniques available. This ring did not have any ‘tabs’ so was quite difficult to mount sink, rim, and counter simultaneously… Check your counter thickness before committing! Never again. Overmount sinks are in my future.

  3. Scott Blood says:

    Walter Selck was my grandfather. My mother, his oldest daughter, passed and in going through her boxes, came across articles and magazines from the 1940s regarding the company and the hudee ring. Great to read this article and the comments

  4. Joe Felice says:

    I know rings are historically accurate, and that Pam loves them, but I am not a fan. Seems like this neat freak has spent an inordinate amount of my life cleaning out from under the edges, including with knives. And I was always amazed at how-much gunk came out. When I had new counters installed in the kitchen & bath, I specified integral Wilsonart composite sinks. Now I just wisk all the food, dirt, hair, water, etc. into the sink. No more rings for me.

    1. pam kueber says:

      I hear this complaint now and again. Funny, I have had mine for about 10 years now, and we just don’t have the problem. When I prep, I don’t “sweep” anything toward the sink — I clean with a William-Sonoma sponge (fan for 20 years).

  5. Angela says:

    I’m looking to buy OVAL white sink as it shown in the picture above. Do You have an idea where to get it? Thanks a million for Your ideas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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